tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101755558255659890.post3679490822386812526..comments2023-05-22T05:06:35.348-04:00Comments on Sweet Freedom Designs: Etsy, This is just stupidSweet Freedomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15174205709581795573noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101755558255659890.post-20258169976336987652013-07-07T12:01:01.435-04:002013-07-07T12:01:01.435-04:00I just heard about that and didn't know what t...I just heard about that and didn't know what to think. If I hadn't heard crazy stuff about Etsy that turned out to be true before, I'd thought it was a huge misunderstanding or perhaps even a joke. Feels like a decision that shows a lack of understanding of jewellery making and other types of arts/crafts where such supplies are often used. They talk about handmade, but doesn't understand it.<br /><br />Not a seller, but a buyer that enjoys looking for stones, sea glass, sea pottery, sea urchins, shells etc of the kind I can't find out in nature myself. They're just great things to include in all sorts of projects. I love the raw look of untreated natural supplies sometimes and the possibilies an unaltered stone have.<br /><br />Thing is, I've often felt like not wanting to buy on Etsy due to things that has happened to sellers (or not happened in the case of blatant resellers and copyright violators) and silly policies, but many seller I find seem to only sell via Etsy so you have to go that route (or contact them privately for an "off-Etsy" transaction, which they might not be interested in or which I might not feel like I have time to do). Manekihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13362626785474144154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101755558255659890.post-41990371766972637512013-07-07T00:36:15.114-04:002013-07-07T00:36:15.114-04:00We were banned from Etsy because they said our goo...We were banned from Etsy because they said our goods were not handmade. Yes, we did place them in a wooden box, with original materials. We went to great expense to document this, but could never get answers to any of our questions for a 'living entity', only a series of computer generated request for more info and finally a disappoval. Ironically, I searched offerings of other vendors and found two similar products purchased directly from India with NO original content. Within 20 minutes, I found over 40 items that were simply bangles purchased from manufacturers with a bead or two added. We suspect that another vendor with a similar item, that is actually considered 'fake' by many had made a complaint, as we received positive comments from all we had sold to. Our own web sales are significant enough that we decided to let it go. We deal with crystals and minerals and also prefer to offer them unwrapped, so the artisan can decided what it best. As anyone working with crystals knows 'the crystal chooses you' and were delighted that many sales resulted from Etsy exposure. Biggest disappointment was that this so called 'Etsy Integrity Team' passed judgement without due cause. I hope that you find a favorable resolution to this as Etsy and all consumers deserve better integrity than what we were offered. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101755558255659890.post-34000669496064278612013-07-06T22:41:41.587-04:002013-07-06T22:41:41.587-04:00Thank you Bob - although, I am not Kay! Asking for...Thank you Bob - although, I am not Kay! Asking for clarification on a vague policy does NOT put you at fault for this. I wish you well in your new endeavor.Sweet Freedomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15174205709581795573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101755558255659890.post-39610150463459451122013-07-06T22:29:46.510-04:002013-07-06T22:29:46.510-04:00Here are the 2 threads I posted before it all went...Here are the 2 threads I posted before it all went down, these threads were quickly locked by admins.<br /><br />https://www.etsy.com/teams/7718/questions/discuss/12624936/page/1/<br /><br />https://www.etsy.com/teams/7718/questions/discuss/12621029/page/1/<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224569094862277521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101755558255659890.post-4928598254540289182013-07-06T22:22:17.086-04:002013-07-06T22:22:17.086-04:00Great post Kay! All of this started over our shop....Great post Kay! All of this started over our shop. We were asked to remove our crystal listings July 3rd, just before our big 4th of July sale. We tried to get clarification from the Integrity Team since the response we got was very vague and didn't make any sense to us.<br /><br />Meantime, we sat there all day on the 4th during our big sale with our listings down... waiting for Etsy to get done with their BBQ and give us an answer. Meantime my business couldn't wait for them to explain, and honestly I knew they were going to say what they said. So we went ahead and built our shop at http://www.aurazencrystals.com and celebrated our independence day on the 4th.<br /><br />As I was waiting for a response, I just knew it was going to change the dynamic of etsy if the choice was made to not allow our listings. I am blown away from all of the support and kind words from all of the members and shop owners.<br /><br />However, I live with the guilt of being the straw that broke etsy's back.<br /><br />The trickle effect of knocking out our listings and keeping etsy shops from finding the supplies they need within the community was like hitting 2 birds with 1 stone... no pun intended. ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224569094862277521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101755558255659890.post-17306649530887996382013-07-06T22:20:23.130-04:002013-07-06T22:20:23.130-04:00Great post Kay! All of this started over our shop....Great post Kay! All of this started over our shop. We were asked to remove our crystal listings July 3rd, just before our big 4th of July sale. We tried to get clarification from the Integrity Team since the response we got was very vague and didn't make any sense to us.<br /><br />Meantime, we sat there all day on the 4th during our big sale with our listings down... waiting for Etsy to get done with their BBQ and give us an answer. Meantime my business couldn't wait for them to explain, and honestly I knew they were going to say what they said. So we went ahead and built our shop at http://www.aurazencrystals.com and celebrated our independence day on the 4th.<br /><br />As I was waiting for a response, I just knew it was going to change the dynamic of etsy if the choice was made to not allow our listings. I am blown away from all of the support and kind words from all of the members and shop owners.<br /><br />However, I live with the guilt of being the straw that broke etsy's back.<br /><br />The trickle effect of knocking out our listings and keeping etsy shops from finding the supplies they need within the community was like hitting 2 birds with 1 stone... no pun intended. ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224569094862277521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101755558255659890.post-75116754618205168052013-07-06T21:18:51.643-04:002013-07-06T21:18:51.643-04:00I am in complete agreement! Sometimes I like to dr...I am in complete agreement! Sometimes I like to drill my own to achieve a certain look. Do you have any idea if there is a hidden agenda here? I am smelling one. Wonder what it is?<br />In My Dreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14314569946759382887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101755558255659890.post-41355811789034291332013-07-06T20:32:32.078-04:002013-07-06T20:32:32.078-04:00I know what you mean about the forums, Kay, and I ...I know what you mean about the forums, Kay, and I hope this decision is re-thought, because of course these undrilled stones are an integral part of our work! Good to hear from you!Sweet Freedomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15174205709581795573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101755558255659890.post-20572731040515053922013-07-06T17:52:15.162-04:002013-07-06T17:52:15.162-04:00I have not read the threads yet, I try to stay awa...I have not read the threads yet, I try to stay away from the forums for the most part as I end up just getting pissed off, write something based on emotion and then get a friendly email from an Etsy admin warning me to back down. <br /> I absolutely prefer UNDRILLED stones for my wire wrapping, they are definitely SUPPLIES in my mind, and my accountant would agree with me as well. <br />Sonora Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16134743920159242798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101755558255659890.post-29698804728605261622013-07-06T17:51:59.968-04:002013-07-06T17:51:59.968-04:00I have not read the threads yet, I try to stay awa...I have not read the threads yet, I try to stay away from the forums for the most part as I end up just getting pissed off, write something based on emotion and then get a friendly email from an Etsy admin warning me to back down. <br /> I absolutely prefer UNDRILLED stones for my wire wrapping, they are definitely SUPPLIES in my mind, and my accountant would agree with me as well. <br />Sonora Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16134743920159242798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1101755558255659890.post-55239235592459026152013-07-06T17:51:31.317-04:002013-07-06T17:51:31.317-04:00I have not read the threads yet, I try to stay awa...I have not read the threads yet, I try to stay away from the forums for the most part as I end up just getting pissed off, write something based on emotion and then get a friendly email from an Etsy admin warning me to back down. <br /> I absolutely prefer UNDRILLED stones for my wire wrapping, they are definitely SUPPLIES in my mind, and my accountant would agree with me as well. <br />Sonora Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16134743920159242798noreply@blogger.com